1. Charles Dutoit, Orchestre symphonique de Montréal, 1986

Holst - The Planets (Dutoit, Orchestre symphonique de Montréal, 1986)

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Up until I embarked upon this foolhardy escapade of listening to as many different Planets recordings as possible and then writing about them, my favourite version by far was this recording by Dutoit and his French-Canadian comrades. I considered this to be the deluxe recording of The Planets. There’s not a musical hair out of place. The recording is rich and opulent, and the performances are everything you’d want from each movement. Now, you might not go for the everything-in-its-place, exceptionally-well-mannered approach that Charlie and co. employ, but I responded to it in a major way. Dutoit has his fans, and he has his detractors. Full disclosure: I’m in the “I’m A Dutoit Fan!” camp. For me, this Planets was magnificence upon magnificence. Everything about it, from the playing to the recording, was absolutely right. As far as I was concerned, recordings of The Planets didn’t get any better than this.

That was how I felt before I embarked upon this foolhardy escapade. Now that I’ve listened to a gazillion + 1 recordings of The Planets, I think it’s time I revisited it to see if anything’s changed.

I’m now listening to “Mars”, and it’s astounding. (Mind you, I’m listening to it loud.) Granted, the sound of the orchestra is very polished, but the performance is… oh my. This is a “Mars” with a whole load of heft. At 5:25 there’s a very tiny trumpet mistake (it’s almost unnoticeable). While “Mars” is chugging along, I’d like to point out the hall acoustic. It’s ideal for this recording. Back to the music. The orchestral bang at 6:07: Wow. And the orchestral death throes (starting at 6:08) are astonishing.

“Venus” is perfectly peaceful. And the playing is incredible (as in “I can’t believe this music could be played that well”). The handling of the dynamics from 1:55-2:20 is a masterclass in how an orchestra can cease to be an orchestra and just become music. The last minute of “Venus” (from 8:32 onwards) is wonderful, but I must point out the last 30 seconds (from 9:05) – they are unutterably beautiful. Is this the best “Venus” on record? For me, the answer is: Yes indeedy.

“Mercury” is played exceptionally well. The orchestral balance is superb. From 1:03-1:25 is a neat little trick: The harp makes its presence felt by playing a little louder than the other instruments. But immediately after that initial “Hi there, I’m the harp” it blends in, volume-wise, with the rest of the orchestra. Now, because the harp introduced itself, you know it’s there, but when it’s in amongst the other instruments of the orchestra, and isn’t any louder or quieter than anyone else, you can hear what it’s doing whilst everything else is happening. That’s a neat trick. And because of that trick, I can hear the harp very quietly (almost imperceptibly) supporting all the solo instruments in that little section. Marvellous.

The first part of “Jupiter” (all the jolly stuff before the Big Tune, from 0:00-3:04) is maybe not as characterful (gasp!) as it can be in other versions, but it’s still splendid. However, when we get to the Big Tune (4:04-5:02) we hear the music in all its glory. Man oh man that’s a great tune. I’m pleased to say that after the Big Tune, when all the jolly stuff returns, it’s full of character. Just have a listen to the swirling music from 7:27-7:40. Magnificent.

Now we get to the serious stuff. “Saturn” is played with complete seriousness. There are no shenanigans (such as playing too fast, too slow, or messing about with phrasing, dynamics, etc.) whatsoever. It’s simply played for maximum emotional effect. Before I probably go into raptures about the next movement (Hello, “Uranus”!), I want to mention the organ at the end of “Saturn”. I used to be a hi-fi nut in the 1980s (not so much nowadays). This CD of The Planets was one I took with me to audition speakers. I took this particular disc to test the low-frequency response, and the organ at the end of “Saturn” was what I used. Those low notes of the organ, starting at 8:01, are mind-blowing. Any speaker that can handle that bass gets a big tick from me. By the way, I think the last 20 seconds (starting at 9:35, after the organ has faded away) is perfection.

Speaking of perfection, this “Uranus” really is fantastic. The orchestral balance is ideal (just hear how the timpani at 2:04-2:06 play at a cheekily low volume), and the playing is… Oops. I think I might be overdoing it with the hyperbole. Sorry about that. I’ll try to restrain myself. Maybe I can find something wrong with it. Er… Nope. As “Uranus” continues to march on its merry way, I’m marvelling at everything in it. I know this isn’t helping. I should be as objective as possible, but this recording… The organ and the orchestra at 5:15 – it’s jaw-dropping.

Now for “Neptune”. (And I’m wondering if I’ve run out of superlatives.) “Neptune” has all the mystery you want – and then some. For example, have a listen from 2:07-2:54. (That celesta gives me chills.) And in that section there are one or more instruments that sound deliberately out of tune just enough to add to the tension. (It might be accidental, but with this recording I doubt it.) When the organ comes in at 3:38, the “spookiness” factor goes up a couple of notches. And then the organ stops dead. [Shudder] The women’s choir appears at 4:22. Can I use the word “spectral” here? I’d like to, but at this point you might be saying, “Yeah, yeah, you love this recording. Sheesh, you don’t have to go on about it.” You’re right. I should really wrap this up and come to some kind of conclusion (in other words, stop typing fawning gibberish).

All I’ll say is this: Yep, Dutoit’s Planets is as good as I remember it. It’s the most satisfying version I know. And it’s the one I return to most often. This is exactly how I like to hear The Big P.

Portentous Announcement: This is the best Planets I’ve ever heard.

31 thoughts on “1. Charles Dutoit, Orchestre symphonique de Montréal, 1986

  1. John R. Lewis III March 6, 2015 / 9:47 pm

    After I read your comments on the Levine Planets, I thought you might be headed here for your number one choice. While not the most exciting version in the catalogue, it may well be the most beautiful. It has certainly deserved all the attention it’s gotten since it first appeared.

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    • Peter March 7, 2015 / 1:17 am

      Yes indeed. To me, every bit of praise for Dutoit’s Planets is well deserved.

      As for Levine, I look at his recording as The Flairy Floss Planets: Great when you’re eating it listening to it, but forgettable as soon as you’ve finished.

      The most scathing comment I’ve seen about Levine’s CD was in Mark Jordan’s review of Walter Susskind’s Planets, which, although it was nominally about Susskind’s recording, it actually ended up being a survey of about a dozen Planets recordings. Mark said this about the Levine:

      “1990 saw the release of a pops-concert Planets from James Levine and the Chicago Symphony on Deutsche Grammophon. I remember hearing the concert broadcast that preceded this recording, and I remember being shocked to hear Levine say in the intermission interview that music like ‘The Planets’ was worth performing, even if it wasn’t profound. This statement demonstrated Levine’s complete ignorance of what this music is about, but then again, his performance proves it all by itself. All is played for effect, with nary a sign of any real commitment. The sound is very crassly in-your-face, although it does show off the vaunted athleticism of the Chicago brass section. Of course, it also favors the brass so much, the strings could have stayed home for the loud movements. Not even the clumsy Bernard Hermann “Phase-4” Decca recording from the mid-1970’s is as bad a presentation as this. Though Hermann was out of his element trying to grapple with Holst’s big score, he at least made an attempt to perform it sincerely. Levine, on the other hand, briskly pumps the climaxes, then beats time until the next loud part arrives. Not only is it an insult to Holst, it is an insult to Levine’s own considerable talent. Levine is far too fine a conductor to make a disc like this.”

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  2. John R. Lewis III March 6, 2015 / 10:19 pm

    p.s. I heard Dutoit conduct this with the Philadelphia Orchestra a few years ago, and the audience was really stunned by it. Clearly Dutoit loved the piece, as the recording also makes clear.

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  3. wonderboy September 20, 2016 / 4:53 pm

    this is really a winner in all categories. spectacular sound and perfect performance !

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  4. Delirious Lab December 24, 2016 / 1:59 am

    I had the pleasure of hearing the Montréal Symphony play the Planets a few years ago, in their brand new concert hall… What incredible sounds, the kind of which I am unable to hear on any recording in my living room (unless I were willing to re-mortgage my house for a better sound system).

    Although Dutoit is gone, these folks still play 20th-century music like no other band on earth.

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  5. papadarkindy February 22, 2017 / 11:29 am

    This is a clean, well performed recording with a lot of attention to detail. Compared to Boult’s readings, though, it definitely doesn’t have a lot of dynamics. Mars, for example, gets as loud as it ever will by about 1:30, and stays there till the end. Boult’s has a little more range from loud to soft, just where the music needs it, and it is used to great effect at the end. At least in the Dutoit version, though, the tonality of that massive final note is not lost beneath the thunder of tympani… I don’t find a lot to choose from between the two.

    The same is true with Jupiter; it sounds like Dutoit uses up all of his dynamic range at the beginning and the piece feels like it needs to go louder/softer but can’t. I get the distinct impression that Dutoit is trying to get the orchestra to render the whole suite as perfectly as they can, while Boult just wants to engage the listener and get them to enjoy it as much as he obviously does.

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  6. Freakuency Ueberload March 2, 2017 / 9:29 am

    Yes.
    I fell in love with this recording as a physics major in college, and then some twenty-four years later had the exceptionally good fortune of attending a performance of The Planets by the San Francisco Symphony conducted by Dutoit. Feeling the floor beneath me undulate during the deep bass rumbles in Saturn and Neptune was transformative for me: the experience of music transcended the ears and encompassed the entire body. That performance remains the highlight of my musical experiences.
    I’ve very much enjoyed reading your reviews, and am happy to know many others like me appreciate and value Holst’s inspired work.

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    • Peter March 2, 2017 / 10:24 am

      Howdy, Freakster

      “Yes.
      I fell in love with this recording as a physics major in college, and then some twenty-four years later had the exceptionally good fortune of attending a performance of The Planets by the San Francisco Symphony conducted by Dutoit. Feeling the floor beneath me undulate during the deep bass rumbles in Saturn and Neptune was transformative for me: the experience of music transcended the ears and encompassed the entire body. That performance remains the highlight of my musical experiences.
      I’ve very much enjoyed reading your reviews, and am happy to know many others like me appreciate and value Holst’s inspired work.”

      To all of the above: Excellent.

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  7. Hans December 1, 2018 / 3:12 am

    Just splendid

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  8. Andrew James April 16, 2019 / 1:20 pm

    Spectacular recording (that organ bass!) and performance. The only gripe I have is “fading” the choir out too quickly in Neptune. Considering you could literally have them go on and fade them out in production for perfect effect. The score states that the sound is to be repeated until “lost in the distance.” Recently saw this performed live, and while they did a beautiful job of handling the choir (the acoustics were sublime), they faded out to a point, still barely audible, and then stopped. Again, my only gripe. And thanks for doing this. I fell in love with The Planets back in grade school (listening to my ’98 Yoel Levi/Atlanta recording), and now age 32, professional musician, they’re as powerful as ever, perhaps even more. I love this comprehensive list of recordings, performances, and opinion, and look forward to listening to many more versions. Thanks again.

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    • Peter April 16, 2019 / 1:22 pm

      You’re entirely welcome, young Andrew. Have fun!

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  9. Christophe June 10, 2019 / 5:40 am

    Hello! I downloaded it through qobuz website here:
    https://www.qobuz.com/fr-fr/album/holst-the-planets-orchestre-symphonique-de-montreal-charles-dutoit/0002894175532
    However, the sound level is very low. On my denon 4520 amplifier with sound attenuation at about 5dB, the sound in the strongest parts is not so much loud. I could not stand in the room at such a sound level with my other recordings. Do you think that there may be a problem with the version on Qobuz? Thanks!

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    • Peter June 10, 2019 / 9:45 am

      Howdy, Christophe

      There may very well be a problem with qobuz, depending on the files used for the downloads.

      All four* CD releases of the Dutoit Planets sound fine to me. They have been mastered identically.

      Let me know if you want to hear the CD rips. (Send me an email.)

      (*The Dutoit Planets was released on CD in 1987, 1998, 2004, and 2008.)

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      • Rodrigo Lobos November 5, 2019 / 3:06 am

        Have you ever compared the vinyl vs the CD?
        The CD sounds pretty amazing, I wonder if we will ever have a chance to get a 24bit-96KHz (or higher) of this recording, no remastering needed, just a higher resolution version of it to enjoy it with a DAC.

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      • Peter November 6, 2019 / 10:02 am

        Howdy, Rodrigo

        I haven’t engaged in a vinyl-vs-CD battle royale. For a start, I don’t have a turntable (I sold it and my vinyl collection in the 1990s to feed my growing CD addiction). Plus, I wanted to limit myself to only the CD releases of The Planets for this blog/website. I thought that would be more than enough to deal with. (So many CDs, so little time!)

        I know there are a few 24/96 Planets recordings out there, but I only wanted to review the CDs.

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  10. Tad March 22, 2020 / 4:47 pm

    Why in the world everyone thinks this recording is SO fabulous is completely lost on me! Dutoit’s Planets is revered and yet to me it without soul and boring.. That goes as well for his Ravel recordings as well.. Of your top 20, I much prefer Mark Elder and Vernon Handley. I have the Roy Goodman as well and it is okay but I’m not sure I would rate it as high as you did… To each their own I guess…

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    • Peter March 22, 2020 / 7:36 pm

      Yep.

      I’m mighty glad that we differ in our Planets performance preferences. I’d hate to think of a world in which everybody liked exactly the same stuff. (No thank you.)

      Keep on keepin’ on, Tad!

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  11. Jesse Duley August 21, 2020 / 3:00 am

    Just wanted to thank you for this epic project of yours! I just listened to this recording and I am completely overwhelmed.

    I’ve only ever known one recording, which I listened to over and over again as a boy in the 80s. It was Karajan/Berlin. It’s what I fell in love with, and everything else I’ve ever heard just sounded instantly…. wrong! I don’t know if you can relate to that, given the openness of ears you must have to do a project like this. But when I read your Karajan review, I thought – I know those fluffed trumpet notes! They’re my friends! I never felt as though they detracted from my love of the suite. But now I’ve listened to this recording, I am rejoicing. I’m hearing it all as new. Utterly stunning. Going to seek out a few more recordings on your list to compare, now, but I can’t see myself straying too far from this.

    Also, I’ve attended only one live performance. It was at the proms, some time in the early 2000s. It was rubbish, for two reasons: 1. the orchestra (particularly the brass) fluffed so many key moments; 2. it was the premiere of someone else’s presumptuous Pluto movement as an addendum. If it were up to me, I would have declassified Pluto as a planet purely on the basis of that concert.

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    • Peter August 21, 2020 / 10:11 am

      Howdy, Jesse

      Thanks for the thanks, Big J.

      I’m glad you responded so positively to the Dutoit Planets. As you may have gathered from my review, I think it’s the bees’ knees.

      (Side Note: Do bees have knees?)

      I know exactly where you’re coming from regarding growing up with a particular recording and having it imprint on you. I have quite a few recordings (as you no doubt do too) where I’ve only ever known that particular version.

      For example, the first time I heard “Moonlight” from Britten’s Four Sea Interludes from Peter Grimes was by Neeme Järvi’s Bergen Philharmonic version on the BIS label, and I was awestruck by it. I’ve heard other recordings over the years, thinking I’d find a better version, but they just don’t it for me the way the Järvi does.

      Another recording I imprinted on is the Neville Marriner / St Martin-in-the-Fields version of Vaughan Williams’ Fantasia On A Theme by Thomas Tallis. For me, no other recording will do.

      So basically, the short version of this reply is: “I hear ya, Jesse!”

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  12. petekowalsky December 9, 2020 / 3:40 pm

    “Love your first choice here – same as mine, though I have special regard for several other versions for various reasons as well! :)

    Question – do you know what the low-frequency noises are that we hear for example in Mercury @ around :51-:53? I always thought they must be big trucks driving by outside the studio or something but I’m not so sure now – are they in the score as organ or double-bass passages or something? I feel like I hear them in certain other versions as well so that’s why I’m wondering. They seem somewhat spurious and dubiously musical but perhaps they are intended as “effects” of some sort?”

    Well, I’ve just listened to “Mercury” at 0:51-0:53, and it sounds like a truck to me.

    However, the truck theory doesn’t quite work because, according to articles about the recording process at Montréal’s St Eustache church, where all of the Dutoit recordings were made, traffic was diverted whenever there was a recording session.

    So the short answer is: “Er, dunno.”

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    • petekowalsky December 9, 2020 / 3:42 pm

      Maybe it’s even mechanical vibrations from the organ blower?

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  13. Ian July 18, 2022 / 11:32 pm

    Beautiful playing, tick. Great sound, tick. Passion, tick…. But I have a major annoyance with this performance: Venus is just way way too sloooooow.

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    • Peter July 19, 2022 / 10:29 am

      I think Dutoit’s “Venus” is perfect. But each to their own. Vivre la différence!

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      • Ian July 21, 2022 / 10:35 pm

        Indeed :)

        Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and knowledge, it’s a great resource for other planetholics!!

        I read that you only review CDs but have you seen this one on YouTube? (movie I’d is fVrVjeEtDMU. I tried posting the full URL but my reply didn’t show up). I love it. One moment in particular how he brings out the trumpet in the hymn section of Jupiter… it sounds like a brass band. I’ve not heard it so prominently in any other performance. You can just about hear it in the Dutoit performance.

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      • Peter July 22, 2022 / 10:13 am

        Howdy, Ian

        Thanks for the kind words. They’re much appreciated.

        Although the focus of this Planets blog/website is CD, I also watch/listen to performances on YouTube. The best one I’ve found so far is the live performance by Eugene Ormandy and the Philadelphia Orchestra in Germany in 1977 (see below). I loved it so much that I tracked down the DVD and bought it.

        I hadn’t seen the Planets performance you recommended. I found the link. It’s the Sinfonia Rotterdam conducted by Conrad van Alphen in 2019.

        Let’s press play and…

        I’m listening to it now.

        “Mars” is tremendous.

        “Venus” is exceptionally beautiful. I’m enjoying this performance of The Planets.

        “Mercury” is wonderfully fleet-of-foot.

        “Jupiter” is excellent. The first major tune (19:44 onwards) is a little slower than I’m used to, but I adjusted to it in no time. The Big Tune (21:08 onwards) is glorious. I see what you mean about the brass-band qualities in “Jupiter”. Very nice.

        “Saturn” is not as ‘effortful’ as I’d like. I mean, I don’t get a sense of the difficulties of old-age with this performance. But it is well-played. The last section (31:14 onwards) is serene.

        “Uranus” is not as jumpy or mischievous as I’ve heard it elsewhere, but it’s fine.

        “Neptune” is suitably ethereal.

        The Rotterdam Planets overall was enjoyable. Thanks for letting me know about it, Ian.

        Now, back to the Ormandy Planets. If it was available on CD it would easily be in my top five.

        Here ’tis:

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  14. BK December 23, 2022 / 4:21 pm

    I just don’t like Dutoit. There, I said it and I’m glad. I bought this one after going through your list about four years ago. Sadly, I just didn’t care for it. And that’s what makes horse racing. I have about fifty recordings of this now. This one’s not on the replay list.

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  15. Bill Altman February 28, 2023 / 6:44 am

    Bummer about all the sexual assault allegations. I like this recording, but probably won’t go out of my way to add it to my growing collection of The Planets in vinyl.

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    • Peter February 28, 2023 / 8:53 am

      Yeah, ol’ Charlie isn’t doing his legacy any favours with his behaviour. As for his Planets recording with the Montreallers, it’s unimpeachable, I love it. Love it!

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  16. Dominic Stockford May 23, 2023 / 5:50 am

    As a brass player, who hs just played the Planets, I find it a bit annoying to hear so much criticism of the brass section. As one friend put it, Holst didn’t write it to be easy, but to sound good – and it is so ‘not easy’ some of it is near impossible.

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